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Old 02-19-2005, 12:11 PM   #31 (Print)
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Just one small point. Even though we start showing these shows after the US, we regularly overtake America on showing of Stargate Atlantis and Stargate SG-1 (for definate!) and maybe Smallville and Enterprise too, but not 100% sure on those

Oh, and we saw the whole of BS before the US, too

Someone didn't do their research properly; but that's some journo's for you

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Old 02-20-2005, 12:17 PM   #32 (Print)
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Are you refrring to systems a bit like Videora?
http://www.videora.com/en-us/
Seems they've tried to do a TiVo functionality with a torrent backdrop to source the video.

I have only just noticed, but at the end of last year TiVo Inc was sufficiently aware of the TiVo like claims of Vidora to tell them that usage of the words "wish list" and "season passes" are mis-uses of their own trademarks, "WishList" and "Season Pass" and demanded that Vidora stop using those words >
http://www.videora.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7
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Old 02-20-2005, 02:19 PM   #33 (Print)
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A couple of erm... interesting replies on that page.

"Those trademarks will most likely be available at liquidation in the not too distant future. TiVo is so dead!" by user kirk95

and

"First off, no clue how Tivo claims a trademark on those, they have been used by many others for much longer than Tivo. " by user dilvie, who clearly has no understanding of trademarks/passing-off



Interesting software though. Anyone tried it? Does it work? Any spyware in there?

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Old 02-21-2005, 04:59 AM   #34 (Print)
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Interesting software though. Anyone tried it? Does it work? Any spyware in there?


I gave Videora a try yesterday - my opinion "don't bother". I tried searching for a couple of shows (some obscure and some which I felt certain would be available) and it found nothing. And they want to charge $20 for it. Won't be getting my cash
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:06 AM   #35 (Print)
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I gave Videora a try yesterday - my opinion "don't bother". I tried searching for a couple of shows (some obscure and some which I felt certain would be available) and it found nothing. And they want to charge $20 for it. Won't be getting my cash

That sums up my experience too. It stayed installed on my system for about 10 minutes.
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:25 AM   #36 (Print)
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Videora 1.0 was only released in December 2004 and the most interesting thing about it as a product is that it has already attracted the attention of TiVo Inc.

In terms of the viability of the underlying technology, it has to be realised that it relies on RSS feeds and that few sites currently provide video RSS feeds (indeed, RSS as a whole is still an emerging medium, even for news feeds). The RSS feeds used by Videor are >
http://openvid.sourceforge.net/rss.php

RSS feeds should not be seen as a way of creating a large database to search, it should be seen more of a way to highlight newly arrived content, for example, a link to the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica, not one to an ancient episode.

For a free roll your own 'TiVo' / BitTorent / RSS solution (and discussion) try >
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/58/42/

Of course, the fundamental problem at the moment is that what is being done is illegal. The systems will work much better when copyright holders make paid for content available.
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:16 AM   #37 (Print)
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Videora 1.0 was only released in December 2004 and the most interesting thing about it as a product is that it has already attracted the attention of TiVo Inc.


Only 'cos they used Tivo-Trademarked terms

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Old 02-22-2005, 08:04 AM   #38 (Print)
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And if Tivo fail to pursue the unlicenced use of their trade marks they risk losing them!

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Old 03-08-2005, 04:45 PM   #39 (Print)
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Oh, and we saw the whole of BS before the US, too

Someone didn't do their research properly; but that's some journo's for you

Your implication that the journalist said all shows air in the US before the UK is not true.

Indeed if you had read the piece carefully, it did not even say that most shows were aired in the US before the UK. What he actually wrote was "many popular American shows are not aired in Europe until months after their first showing".

Sometimes the fault lies not with the journo but is a beam in the eye of the reader.

But now a journo has come up with an even better story - a show appearing on the internet before it appeared on television either in the UK or the USA or any other country
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Net pirates steal preview of Doctor Who comeback
Owen Gibson, media correspondent
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Thousands of net-savvy Doctor Who fans have managed to circumvent the first rule of time travel by seeing the first episode of the BBC's new multimillion pound revival of the series before it has even been broadcast.

Down the years the Doctor has dealt with Cybermen, Daleks and Silurians with good humour but the BBC's latest incarnation of Doctor Who, starring Christopher Eccleston as the eponymous Doctor and Billie Piper as his assistant, is facing a more troublesome enemy in the shape of internet pirates.

The first new episode of the series for 15 years, written by Russell T Davies, has been leaked on to the internet despite being jealously guarded by the BBC ahead of the pro gramme's launch later this month. It is believed to originate from a DVD of the episode sent to a Canadian broadcaster >
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Why do you always seem to want to pick on me?

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Your implication that the journalist said all shows air in the US before the UK is not true.

I didn't imply anything. I stated a fact (re BS) and an opinion. I can't help what you read into my posts.

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But now a journo has come up with an even better story - a show appearing on the internet before it appeared on television either in the UK or the USA or any other country

Which (depending on who you choose to belive) was either:

a. leaked by the BBC to increase interest in the show

or

b. Leaked by a Canadian journo who received a preview copy.

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Old 03-09-2005, 08:41 AM   #41 (Print)
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Why do you always seem to want to pick on me?

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a. leaked by the BBC to increase interest in the show


I have done a check on all the threads in the UK forums started by you this year.

As far as I can tell there are 5 and I only responded to one of them - and that was because you made a 'joke' about Americans being stupid.

As far as I can tell, I have only started three threads in the UK forums so far this year. In one of them you jumped in to say what I was posting was common knowledge, in another I was posting bad research and in the third, a poll, you posted that I had not provided the 'right' options in the poll.

Perhaps it is the man on the grassy knoll who is picking on you and is also the man who leaked the DVD.
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:59 AM   #42 (Print)
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The situation will only become truly interesting if the video equivalent of iTunes is launched - or if it becomes a way for broadcasters to allow satellite refuseniks to become HDTV early adapters in advance of terrestrial HDTV transmitters being turned on.

On the "video equivalent of iTunes" front it is interesting to note that in yesterdays TiVo 4th quarter fiscal Year 2005 results' webcast, Mike Ramsay, TiVo CEO, not only (once again) said TiVo's future lay in part with broadband, he used podcasting as an example of the way things are developing - and podcasting makes good use of the RSS feeds mentioned in this thread.

On the "allowing of satellite refuseniks to become HDTV early adapters in advance of terrestrial HDTV transmitters being turned on" front, Andrew Burke, chief of BT's new Entertainment unit, told the IPTV World Forum Conference on 8th March that delivering TV over broadband is a way of getting high-definition content to people sooner than they will be able to get it through conventional, regular broadcasts >
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