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Old 08-22-2005, 09:03 AM   #61 (Print)
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I thought Federico got the shaft. Yeah he was on a cruise ship (of the future!) but it was a very far off shot. Also, we really are left with him being bought out (presumably) and going on his way. No idea how the Diaz family works out.


After seeing the family celebrate the purchase of their own business, with Vanessa excited and supportive... I like to believe it was the beginning of a very lucrative career for him. He had his head screwed on straight, was a hard worker, and was passionate about building something.

He was enjoying a cruise with Vanessa... that tells me he was finally retired after enjoying great success.
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:13 AM   #62 (Print)
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The moment when Brenda asked Maya to say "to Daddy" was like a dagger to the heart.

The very end was the best montage ever.

I am really going to miss this show. >sniff<

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Old 08-22-2005, 09:23 AM   #63 (Print)
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I think that it was probably consistent in that Frederico was not a Fisher and after he left for the other funeral home he probably became the old friend you only see at weddings or funerals. IE a distent memory therefore a distant death shot.
Keith I think represented that the probability odds that someone you know will die a violent death. They could have made it any of the other characters like Claire in NYC but her death was obviously the symbol of the circle of life.

Having just gone through my fathers hospice and sitting their doing a think forward on my wife, it was pretty tough to take.

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After seeing the family celebrate the purchase of their own business, with Vanessa excited and supportive... I like to believe it was the beginning of a very lucrative career for him. He had his head screwed on straight, was a hard worker, and was passionate about building something.

He was enjoying a cruise with Vanessa... that tells me he was finally retired after enjoying great success.

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Old 08-22-2005, 09:24 AM   #64 (Print)
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It was not until after this episode was over that I realized that there was no opening death scene. It never occurred to me that Willa might die, I knew she would live.

During Claire's wedding, they showed a boy sitting next to Brenda and we figured it might be her son from her next marriage.

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/obi...episode63.shtml
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:32 AM   #65 (Print)
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Wow, reading those obituaries gave me the chills... it's like I really knew these people and are saddend by their passing.

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Old 08-22-2005, 09:35 AM   #66 (Print)
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I just wanted to say that this episode was outstanding. A fitting end to a show that started out great and went downhill dramatically the last two seasons. In fact, the last two season finales were truthfully the only ones worth watching last year and this year. But I'm glad I stuck with it because the ending was worth it.

Just curious, I read one poster who said he had sacrificed and missed alot to make sure he was there for every episode. Why would you ever miss anything for a TV show. I mean, this is a TiVo forum isn't it.

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Old 08-22-2005, 09:39 AM   #67 (Print)
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During Claire's wedding, they showed a boy sitting next to Brenda and we figured it might be her son from her next marriage.


At Keith and David's wedding, she was holding a guy's hand, and also looked a little pregnant. So yeah, I suppose that boy next to her at Claire's wedding was that child...


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Thanks for that link. I really enjoyed reading each of the obituaries.


Some interesting little "extras" in there.
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:42 AM   #68 (Print)
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After seeing the family celebrate the purchase of their own business, with Vanessa excited and supportive... I like to believe it was the beginning of a very lucrative career for him. He had his head screwed on straight, was a hard worker, and was passionate about building something.


.....building something that had a cappucino machine in the corner.

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Old 08-22-2005, 09:47 AM   #69 (Print)
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Seems like Maya and Willa both were divorced or never got married. At least they have their same last names (Fischer and Chenowith) in Brendas obit.
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:52 AM   #70 (Print)
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Note the scene toward the end where Nate Jr. holds Willa with Nate Sr. standing by, "she's beautiful" ("perfect"? can't remember exactly), then hands Brenda the baby ...



That scene scared me at first, I was so afraid the Nates would be taking Willa with them...
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:54 AM   #71 (Print)
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From the obit:


"Brenda Chenowith developed research methodologies to conclusively prove the link between deviant human behavior and fetal alcohol exposure."


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Isn't it a bit creepy that hubby #2 was "Nathanson" after all the "Nathaniel and Isabella" stuff in season 1 and 2?

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That scene scared me at first, I was so afraid the Nates would be taking Willa with them...


That's exactly what I thought was going to happen.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:03 AM   #74 (Print)
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same last names (Fischer and Chenowith)


Everyone, it's FISHER, not FISCHER. Sorry, just a pet peeve.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:05 AM   #75 (Print)
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Seems like Maya and Willa both were divorced or never got married. At least they have their same last names (Fischer and Chenowith) in Brendas obit.

Not all women change their names upon marriage. See, eg, Brenda Chenowith.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:07 AM   #76 (Print)
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Interesting script notes here:

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/exc...ing/index.shtml
http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/exc...g/excerpt.shtml

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:09 AM   #77 (Print)
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Isn't it a bit creepy that hubby #2 was "Nathanson" after all the "Nathaniel and Isabella" stuff in season 1 and 2?


...and the name of her first husband: Nathaniel Samuel Fisher, Jr.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:10 AM   #78 (Print)
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I think that it was probably consistent in that Frederico was not a Fisher and after he left for the other funeral home he probably became the old friend you only see at weddings or funerals. IE a distent memory therefore a distant death shot.


Or maybe his old age makeup didn't look even close to good and a long distance shot was their only choice.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:10 AM   #79 (Print)
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The obits definately answer some questions for ya for sure. But as said above, are pretty heavy on top of the heavy episode.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:12 AM   #80 (Print)
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Wow, David has the same birthdate as me...as well as the same first name.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:14 AM   #81 (Print)
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Or maybe his old age makeup didn't look even close to good and a long distance shot was their only choice.


What interesting irony considering Rico's specialty as a reconstruction artist.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:16 AM   #82 (Print)
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Well, I thought it was very inventive but disappointing. My main problem is that the basic premise of the clever ending is the characters all pretty much stayed the same until they died. For a show full of dramatic character changes and arcs of mental growth, it just seemed a little too "fairy tale ending" to me.

It basically equated to a hollywood movie ending where all character summaries printed with digital printout noises were something like:

David Fisher lived happily ever after.
Claire Fisher lived happily ever after.

etc.

I think it would have been better ended at the end of last week's episode, even though ruth did not have her epiphany yet.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:26 AM   #83 (Print)
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David Fisher lived happily ever after.
And then died.
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Claire Fisher lived happily ever after.
And then died.

Fairy tales don't end with death; they end with the characters living... happily... ever after.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:29 AM   #84 (Print)
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Well, I thought it was very inventive but disappointing. My main problem is that the basic premise of the clever ending is the characters all pretty much stayed the same until they died. For a show full of dramatic character changes and arcs of mental growth, it just seemed a little too "fairy tale ending" to me.

It basically equated to a hollywood movie ending where all character summaries printed with digital printout noises were something like:

David Fisher lived happily ever after.
Claire Fisher lived happily ever after.

etc.

I think it would have been better ended at the end of last week's episode, even though ruth did not have her epiphany yet.


David having to deal with Keith's murder doesn't qualify as a "fairy tale ending." Aside from that, the point of the flashes was to show the end of the road, not the journey along it. After we finished watching, my wife was just sobbing "we're all going to die".
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:32 AM   #85 (Print)
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I thought that the guy sitting next top David at the end was Brenda's husband. He looked like the guy that was sitting next to Brenda at David's wedding.

Just a really powerful ending to a great show.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:34 AM   #86 (Print)
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:36 AM   #87 (Print)
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I thought that the guy sitting next top David at the end was Brenda's husband.



No, it was a different actor, no aging makeup. I now believe that to be "Raoul Martinez," the (new) partner mentioned in his obituary:

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/obi...episode63.shtml

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:43 AM   #88 (Print)
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I thought that in David's death scene, Keith was coming for him, just as Nate and Nathaniel came for Ruth. I didn't interpret it as fantasizing, but who knows?

I just read the obituaries, which I found touching also, helped to fill in some blanks.

I found it realistic that Ted would come to Ruth's funeral twenty years later and reunite with Claire. Now that I am approaching 50, I find that type of situation happening often (sometimes at funerals, reunions, returns to hometown).

Last night I was so moved, shaken is more like it, for the stark beautiful truth in the ending montage, that when the TIVO said, delete or not, I chose to delete because I never thought that watching it a second time would have the same impact and I wanted to save that memory. Also, I wasn't sure if I could go through it again. It's not just mourning for the characters, it's what it said to me about life and death coming to my own family. Now however, I need to see it again, I set the TIVO again for tonight's showing. This is going to be saved.
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Ever after doesn't apply to the living, it applies to the happiness. I don't think happily ever after means people are immortal.

Yes, the ending was about death, but that doesn't mean it has to be some inbred happy-sappy fairy tale for the charaters until they die. Not all scenes were death scenes, there were a couple of marriage scenes too. I was kind of glad when keith did in a tragic way, at least he didn't pass away at the age of 140 after inventing cold fusion.

I forgot to mention that they did a great job with the makeup in those scenes, though. I was quite impressed.
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<sigh>

I miss the show already.

I'm now seeing the first four seasons on DVD for $280 on Amazon.

Anyone seen the set for less? Or should I wait a few weeks, maybe they'll come out with a complete set (seasons 1-5).
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