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Old 12-03-2004, 01:44 PM   #1 (Print)
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Some DirecTV inside info

Dan Collins over at DBSFORUMS.COM is reporting a little good news about Series 2 DirecTivos and the new R10 DVR regarding the new software version.

Some DirecTV inside info
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:03 PM   #2 (Print)
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What a difference one little one letter word makes. I thought your message said that he was reporting "little good news" and not "a little good news".

From what I'm reading, I'm pretty happy. Folders and a speed increase on Series 2 units. It's not everything (HMO) that I would like to have, but it sure doesn't suck! :-)

IMHO, it's more than "a little" good news. Now, I guess we sit tight for a month or so to see if it's actually true....
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:35 PM   #3 (Print)
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Why isn't everyone going bananas over this? This is incredible news. Or is everyone expecting this to be a hoax/false news?
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:38 PM   #4 (Print)
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For those of you who don't know, Dan Collins is a mod (owner?) at dbsforums.com, and he usually has very reliable info regarding DTV.

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Old 12-03-2004, 02:42 PM   #5 (Print)
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I can not find the thread but there has been discussion of the new software here already. I think Dan has a little bit more information about the release time frame. If they are not going to do a series 1 version then why am I paying a "DVR service fee" for my DirecTiVo series 1?

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Old 12-03-2004, 02:44 PM   #6 (Print)
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I think it's great. If it works as noted then it looks like I'll upgrade my Series 2 and make it my main Tivo. As it is I'm still using my upgraded Series 1 for the majority of my recording.

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Old 12-03-2004, 02:51 PM   #7 (Print)
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Why isn't everyone going bananas over this? This is incredible news. Or is everyone expecting this to be a hoax/false news?

I'm not that excited. Faster menus would be a good thing but I'm happy with what I have.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:07 PM   #8 (Print)
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HD TiVo

Is HD Tivo part of this rollout?
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:18 PM   #9 (Print)
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Why isn't everyone going bananas over this? This is incredible news. Or is everyone expecting this to be a hoax/false news?
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GREAT news (and I do find the source reliable). I've wanted folders on my HDVR2 like my S2/SA has since I first got it. A faster Now Playing would be way cool also.

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Old 12-03-2004, 03:23 PM   #10 (Print)
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Well we are not going "bananas" over it, as we have been talking about it for the last month or so (even longer if you include the "quick post" one of the beta testers did)...

It is nice to have it confirmed that it is coming to the Series 2 boxes..

Million dollar question: Will the networking and HMO hooks be in the software release, just disabled....

Making me reconsider cracking the box on all my units, and putting 4.0 on them...

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Old 12-03-2004, 03:24 PM   #11 (Print)
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Per Dan...

HD is expected, just unknow at what point...
He doesn't expect it to be part of the initial rollout.

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Old 12-03-2004, 03:46 PM   #12 (Print)
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Ok, maybe I"m missing something : What function will folders perform\provide???

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Old 12-03-2004, 03:50 PM   #13 (Print)
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Folders group similiar programs together. i.e. all of your South Park recordings go into a folder called South Park. Folders can really "clean up" the amount of recordings listed in the Now Playing area.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:54 PM   #14 (Print)
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I want MRV. I'm sure folders are great, and HMO is great too, but I want MRV (which entails networking).

The problem here for DTV is that the install includes running a phone line if you don't have one (or at least mine did). Now they have to run cat5 cable too (or come out with wireless-g support).
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:57 PM   #15 (Print)
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I thought it was cool that the "speed up" isn't hardware related. Old S2's with the new software should run just as fast as the new R10's with the new software.

As for networking/MVR, there was a rumor here that DirecTV wanted it to somehow work over the existing RG6 cables so people WOULDN'T have to add CAT5 or WiFi. Dan seems to incidently confirm that with one of his posts in the link at the top of this thread, IMO.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:06 PM   #16 (Print)
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Why isn't everyone going bananas over this? This is incredible news. Or is everyone expecting this to be a hoax/false news?
Just to add my voice to everyone else's, If Dan Collins writes it, you can expect it to happen.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:10 PM   #17 (Print)
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Folders group similiar programs together. i.e. all of your South Park recordings go into a folder called South Park. Folders can really "clean up" the amount of recordings listed in the Now Playing area.
What he said. I have a Monty Python SP set to keep all episodes (New Years's party roll-my-own MP marathon, and a 212hr DirecTiVo) and I've got about 5 pages full of them now. I'd love to have that reduced to one line that said "Monty Python's Flying Circus (41)".

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:17 PM   #18 (Print)
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The bad news is that, while we may get folders, those of us who, shall we say, have joined the "Dark Side" will likely find the new release harder to hack, which means I won't be running it, even with folders.

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:20 PM   #19 (Print)
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I'm sure the Jedi members of the "Dark Force" will be looking at what DTV did to "speed things up" and will come out with a patch, if possible.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:27 PM   #20 (Print)
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I guess it's time to order that 3rd DTiVo, since the new features will likely be back stitched into Series 2 units.

I guess the only change I'd consider would be putting the new box in the main room, instead of just adding it to the game room setup. But that will require a disk upgrade...
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:31 PM   #21 (Print)
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Some of the "Jedi" Masters have already taken a look at the software...
Networking files are there, however the known HMO hookins will require some tweaking...

So hopefully comes Feb/March... We could be having a lot of good times with these units... Speed, Networking, MRV... oohh baby.. Finally.

You spend enough time over "there" it is easy to see why the "dark side o the force" is so darn attractive...

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:32 PM   #22 (Print)
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Uncle has DirecTivo, and can't stand the slowness at all. He doesn't have a land based phone line, so can't get the update. Would D* freak out too much if I brought the receiver to my house and allowed it to call home on my line?
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Old 12-03-2004, 05:11 PM   #23 (Print)
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No, DirecTV doesn't really care where the call comes from. But if history repeats itself, you may need to wait quite a while after the rollout begins to get the update.

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Old 12-03-2004, 05:29 PM   #24 (Print)
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No, DirecTV doesn't really care where the call comes from. But if history repeats itself, you may need to wait quite a while after the rollout begins to get the update.


Yup, I'm still waiting for the 3.1.1e version. I never got 3.1.1d and since everything I watch is on the 101 slot it doesn't matter if I get 3.1.1e. I'm still running 3.1.1c.
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Old 12-03-2004, 05:29 PM   #25 (Print)
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The bad news is that, while we may get folders, those of us who, shall we say, have joined the "Dark Side" will likely find the new release harder to hack, which means I won't be running it, even with folders.

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I agree. It would have to offer everything I have now with 4.x on my DTiVo's. Folders are folders......BUT HMO/MRV/Wireless Networking are thing I can NOT live without anymore

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Old 12-03-2004, 05:30 PM   #26 (Print)
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Maybe 3.1.1d is still leaving a bad taste in their mouths.
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Old 12-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #27 (Print)
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If there is no MRV no thanks. Looks like I will have to go to the dark side.

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Old 12-03-2004, 06:16 PM   #28 (Print)
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Good news for me. Folders and speed increases are at the top of my list. Networking is next on my list.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:45 PM   #29 (Print)
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There is lots more info, but I can't burn my source by revealing it yet. Suffice it to say that the DirecTV DVR segement will be very interesting by this time next year.

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Old 12-03-2004, 08:59 PM   #30 (Print)
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I could understand IF DirecTV were to offer the HMO features that it would be limited to S2 D-TiVos because of the USB ports, but why are they limiting folders to those same units and not to all D-TiVos? I'm not gonna pitch a fit about it, but if someone can explain I'd be grateful.

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