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Old 11-16-2004, 07:10 PM   #301 (Print)
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Unless I'm forgetting something, Boone hasn't stolen anything. He did rifle through a bunch of stuff that Sawyer had squirreled away (which wasn't Sawyer's either; possession may be 9/10 of the law, but the other 1/10 is rightful ownership, and that's pretty important too), and if Boone had found an inhaler, he would have "stolen" it (assuming that getting your sister's property back from a thief is stealing).

Besides, if Boone had stolen an inhaler, it would be to save his sister's life, which I think most would agree is justifiable. Try to find a jury that would convict.

I do, however, think Boone has shown a flaw. That is the tendency to get in over his head and overestimate his abilities, especially while trying to be the hero. He did that trying to save the drowning woman. He also did that going against Sawyer on his own. It's a kind of hubris.
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:10 PM   #302 (Print)
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Wink Ah oh?

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How is Hurley bad? He eats junk food?


Hmmmmm, how's the weather?

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Old 11-16-2004, 07:54 PM   #303 (Print)
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Unless I'm forgetting something, Boone hasn't stolen anything.
He stole the water, remember? This combined with going through Sawyer's stuff without asking starts to form a pattern. There's also something about him that's kind of shady.
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Old 11-16-2004, 08:03 PM   #304 (Print)
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He stole the water, remember? This combined with going through Sawyer's stuff without asking starts to form a pattern. There's also something about him that's kind of shady.


I think it was pretty well established that he did that with the ultimate (ill-fated) plan of safeguarding it - but that, his attempt to save the woman when he should've known his limitations, his moodiness, and his rifling through other people's things point to an immaturity and a temper that could lead to real problems. He's strong enough and good-hearted enough that if his immaturity and temper led to him assuming something incorrect, he could cause some real tense times for the survivors.

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Old 11-16-2004, 09:35 PM   #305 (Print)
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I think it was pretty well established that he did that with the ultimate (ill-fated) plan of safeguarding it
So it's okay to steal if you do it for a good cause?

I'm not trying to say he's done anything evil, just that with two incidents of theft a pattern is starting to form. Even Sawyer's selfish hoarding is more like scavenging than stealing.

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Old 11-16-2004, 11:14 PM   #306 (Print)
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For a great riff on the series so far, see this column by John Carroll of the San Francisco Chronicle.

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Old 11-17-2004, 09:12 AM   #307 (Print)
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....This combined with going through Sawyer's stuff without asking starts to form a pattern....

As has been said many times, it ISN'T Sawyer's stuff
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:08 AM   #308 (Print)
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:09 AM   #309 (Print)
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But as Sawyer said, possession is 9/10 of the law.


and I guess that other 1/10 can make you lose an eye...
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:11 AM   #310 (Print)
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For a great riff on the series so far, see this column by John Carroll of the San Francisco Chronicle.

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And a mere 800 casting calls later, you get "Lost," which has saved ABC's bacon. It's mindless TV fun, but in a good way.

Oh, it's mindless. Now they tell me. So why the heck have I been wasting my time these infinitely-long threads and arguing about what's going on?

Funny article!

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:24 AM   #311 (Print)
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pmyers, you're fast. I removed my post a minute after submitting it because I started thinking about the other 1/10th. You snuck in there on me.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:40 AM   #312 (Print)
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And of course, in the real world, possession is NOT 9/10 of the law. In the real world, possession of somebody else's property can land you in prison.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:48 AM   #313 (Print)
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Can any of these people prove it's their property? Some property, yes, but not all. For all we know, the girl's inhalers could be in the ocean and what Sawyer supposedly had belonged to some dead person.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:51 AM   #314 (Print)
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Can any of these people prove it's their property? Some property, yes, but not all. For all we know, the girl's inhalers could be in the ocean and what Sawyer supposedly had belonged to some dead person.


Well I'm torn how I feel about Sawyer and his hording. On one hand I think there is no room for any personal property as everything should be used for the good of all, but on the other hand, Sawyer is the only one actually collecting items that might be useful in the future. They should have put a stop to his hording way before now.
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:51 AM   #315 (Print)
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For a great riff on the series so far, see this column by John Carroll of the San Francisco Chronicle.


It's a good read. I didn't see any spoilers in this article, it was some more "speculation"

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Old 11-17-2004, 01:20 PM   #316 (Print)
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What's all this talk of law and personal property? Aren't those things defined by the authority of some governing body? What country are they in? Whose laws apply? Do any laws apply?

Like Sawyer said "We're in the wild now."

(Ok, this was just a poke at the concept of lawlessness on a remote uninhabited island... ethics can exist where law does not.)

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Old 11-17-2004, 01:32 PM   #317 (Print)
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Funny article.....

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:20 PM   #318 (Print)
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DLiquid -- I did forget about the water, and didn't even remember it reading your post, but Misc's post triggered my memory.

I think that fits in with my idea about Boone -- another example of him taking on more responsibility than he can handle, or has any right to take.

No one thinks he took the water because he wanted it for himself. He just deems himself the most qualified to take care of the situation. He's wrong, of course, but he's trying to do the right thing, and trying to prove he's a man.

A lot of teenage boys have this problem. My brother once took apart my sister's car door trying to fix a problem with the window. After that, she had to get in and out of her car through the passenger side.
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