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Old 12-29-2005, 10:26 AM   #1 (Print)
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antenna or h10-250(newbie question)

i live in the san francisco/bay area, and am going to upgrade to hd next week. now that we have mpeg4 and can get the locals through the satellite, do i still need an antenna for ota? from what i'm reading, it sounds like it's a good idea to have both as the sat reception is still a little iffy for some channels. is this right?

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Old 12-29-2005, 11:01 AM   #2 (Print)
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If you want to DVR HD Recordings... then the only unit out right now is the HR10-250... and for that you would need to get your HD Locals via OTA, unless you are lucky enough to get waivers for the LA feeds (which is REALLY tough now).

Supposidly in Q1/2006 they will be releasign the HR20 that will allow you to DVR the MPEG-4 signal via the SAT

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Old 12-29-2005, 11:23 AM   #3 (Print)
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so just to be clear, if i get the hd10-250 i have to get an antenna? what about if i just go the h20 receiver route? would i still need an antenna or does the mpeg4 technology eliminate it? again, i'm mostly concerned with what i've read that even with mpeg4, some folks are still having problems receving their locals though the sat and do better with an antenna.

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Old 12-29-2005, 11:38 AM   #4 (Print)
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If you get the HR10-250... you have two options:
1) Get an OTA antenna to pick up your local HD networks
2) Apply for waivers to see if you will be granted access to the "Locals" from LA

If you get the H20... You will be able to access the MPEG-4 signals once they are available in your area (I can't recall if SF is available yet). BUT the H20 is not a DVR

The HR20 which is a DVR-MPEG4 system will hopefully be out in Q1/2006

I don't know much about the problems with recieving the locals via MPEG-4 yet, as I am just now trying to get it setup here in Chicago.

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Old 12-29-2005, 11:48 AM   #5 (Print)
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so i definately need an antenna with the h10-250, because it doesn't have mpeg4 capablility, right?

maybe somebody from the bay area could relate their experiences with the h20 regarding any problems picking up ota, and if an antenna is helping with this?

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:05 PM   #6 (Print)
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I don't think the Bay Area has the MPEG-4 stream yet. LA and NY where just activated yesterday... the other three I think are Detroit, Chicago, and DC (I think).

And yes... the HR10-250 doesn't have MPEG-4 capability, so you would need an OTA antenna... as the waiver process is very iffy right now.

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:06 PM   #7 (Print)
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so i definately need an antenna with the h10-250, because it doesn't have mpeg4 capablility, right?
Even though Earl said it twice, I will repeat. You are correct.


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maybe somebody from the bay area could relate their experiences with the h20 regarding any problems picking up ota, and if an antenna is helping with this?
Go to the parent forum, AVS and look in the HDTV hardware section for general H20 discussion. The Local HDTV section will narrow down discussion topics to ones relevant to your DMA.

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Old 12-29-2005, 01:56 PM   #8 (Print)
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I don't think the Bay Area has the MPEG-4 stream yet. LA and NY where just activated yesterday... the other three I think are Detroit, Chicago, and DC (I think).

And yes... the HR10-250 doesn't have MPEG-4 capability, so you would need an OTA antenna... as the waiver process is very iffy right now.



thanks again. fyi bay area does have the mpeg4 stream, as of late november.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:12 PM   #9 (Print)
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Ahh... Thanks for the update... on the SF-MPEG4

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