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Old 06-22-2003, 03:45 PM   #31 (Print)
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I would hate for HBO to wait until an appropriate hour to air anything. I keep a watchful eye, and the other one too, on everything my daughters watch. I don't need anything or anyone to keep my children from seeing what I don't want them to see. Heck, I find a lot of shows on Nick disrespectful to adults and violent that aren't on in my home. I pay for HBO and I don't want them only airing things at "safe" hours, after all with VCRs and TiVOs, when is there a safe hour?
And omnibus-you need to lighten up. You come out attacking HBO, then you flog fleegle. Any one that doesn't share your thoughts are wrong? Your blood pressure must be at an unsafe level dude!


Fact of the matter is, HBO was airing the show during the late spot, but since you're a mountain time person viewing an east coast feed, it came on during "family friendly" time.
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Old 06-22-2003, 04:26 PM   #32 (Print)
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But, in order to get the anything besides HBO Standard (which, in Hawaii, might be a few hours off, so this is geared more towards the contiguous 48), you need to have a dish or digital cable. All boxes like this that I've seen (even the 10 year old ones) have parental controls.


Actually there are a lot of places that still have analog cable with HBO coming thru without a box. There are people I know in NC, SC, NY and CA that have HBO and no cable box.
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Old 06-22-2003, 04:58 PM   #33 (Print)
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That's the point though. If you want to monitor your kids personally, do that. If you want to use a feature like the v-chip, then buy a new TV (small tvs are cheap enough). It's all about how much involvement you want to put into watching what your kids watch.


Many people are having a hard time paying all their bills or even putting food on their tables, and you want them to just go buy a new TV? But more than likely they will not have HBO either.

My point is , even if you do have a TV with a V-chip, it is still the legal and moral responsibility of the parent to monitor their kids. No one said you have to sit there and watch what your kids are watching, but you do have to control them. My kids knew which channels they could watch and which ones if they did watch would lose them the privilege to watch TV at all for a while. It's called training and raising your children, and teaching them responsibility. You don't leave that up to a TV or a v-chip to do. And if you're too busy to do that, or not interested in putting that much involvement into your kids, then you need to keep it in your pants and not have kids. That's what's wrong with the world today, some parents want their kids to raise themselves. Kids are not getting the supervision and attention they need, and end up turning to a gang to get that attention.
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Old 06-22-2003, 07:55 PM   #34 (Print)
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Actually there are a lot of places that still have analog cable with HBO coming thru without a box. There are people I know in NC, SC, NY and CA that have HBO and no cable box.


In San Diego, they still have HBO available on filtered analog (and on digital). This will probably be deleted from the system sometime. But the point is, this is the feed for this time zone. So, this show aired at 11:00pm on this channel. So, it isn't a problem.
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Old 06-22-2003, 08:08 PM   #35 (Print)
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Many people are having a hard time paying all their bills or even putting food on their tables, and you want them to just go buy a new TV? But more than likely they will not have HBO either.

a) You're correct: they may not have HBO either....BUT, if they do, it's most likely via satellite or a cable box. In either case, the box feeding the signal (cable box/satellite box) has parental control features.

b) We all have TiVo's, right? Why are we complaining?? TiVo has parental features, too...

c) You're right: the v-chip isn't the answer since leaving it up to technology will only result in a child who doesn't have authority from their parent, but rather their TV.

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Old 06-22-2003, 10:00 PM   #36 (Print)
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Actually there are a lot of places that still have analog cable with HBO coming thru without a box. There are people I know in NC, SC, NY and CA that have HBO and no cable box.


indeed. If I wanted HBO, I could get it without needing a cable box.

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Old 06-22-2003, 10:59 PM   #37 (Print)
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I think doom's point was that, to get an HBO feed that's not intended for your time zone, you'd need a digital cable or satellite box, and those all have some sort of parental control system.

The big cable company in Hawaii, Oceanic Cable, tape-delays HBO (along with some other channels), so this isn't an issue for most cable subscribers there. Alaska is only an hour behind Pacific time, so this is only as much of a problem there as it is in the Central time zone.

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Old 06-23-2003, 10:17 AM   #38 (Print)
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I think the orginal poster here demonstrated the real problem with "adult-oriented" programming, and that is people who expect someone else to take over the responsibilities of parents. His comments against HBO were were completely absurd, and I think that his comments about someone else's avatar in support of his own opinion (thereby completely avoiding the issue) is a perfect indication of how little intelligent thought was involved in forming that opinion.

It makes no difference whatsoever what time of day this show was on; if a kid were watching it, then the kid's parents should have either not paid to get HBO, or locked the channel or program rating to prevent the kid from viewing it.

(Not a flame! I believe I was careful to direct my comments only at what was said, not at the person).

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Old 06-23-2003, 12:58 PM   #39 (Print)
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I guess the original poster does not have Cinemax. 8pm here on the West Coast (using the East Coast feed) you can expect some real fun.

Once in a while Cinemax will run a movie that is suitable for kids that is followed by adult programming. You can have a problem then if you forget and leave it on that channel - happened to me once, difference is I do not blame the channel for that.

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Old 06-23-2003, 01:05 PM   #40 (Print)
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Um...This is a premium channel. I don't think HBO, Cinemax or any premium shannel should have to show specific programs only at certain times of the day. That is kind of the point to premium channel. Now They certainly DO attempt to tailor their schedule in the best interest of the viewership, but if they show something that is so terrible and you don't want kids watching it, don't purchase the premium channel.

As always, let the buyer beware. If you don't like what they are doing, don't keep giving them money.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #41 (Print)
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Re: HBO documentary on Nevada Brothel

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This program was on last night in the Mountain time zone at either 8 or 9pm.

It was on the main HBO channel. I'd hate to have seen anybody younger than an 18 year old latch on to this one accidentally.

There were many, more than tittilating sequences the best (worst) was a porn star named Sunset negotiating on a bed with two blue collar guys and eventually offering them a "party" for $3000.


I thought I'd resurrect this thread. I just ran across another documentary on Trio but this one is a documentary on the Chicken Ranch and they seem to be more realistic about what's being said. (While the guide data says 2003 the film is far older. A quick look up of some of the music they were playing put it at 81 or 82) The one girl was trying to get a truck driver to get a $1000 deluxe treatment but then started negotiating when he said it was way too much. She started at $400. He started at $30. they met at $60.

These girls are definitely not very much in favor of the owner. They're very honest about how he tries to take advantage of all of them. They were also showing the girls smoking pot.

This line just came up from the Madame, "You mean I have to walk all the way back there to tell that freak he ain't getting nothin' for $20." His name was Buck. She told the guy it's $50 minimum for 20 minutes. That's a far cry from the girls saying $1000 or $1500 on the Cathouse documentary.

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Old 12-15-2004, 02:29 PM   #42 (Print)
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Re: Re: HBO documentary on Nevada Brothel

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I thought I'd resurrect this thread. I just ran across another documentary on Trio but this one is a documentary on the Chicken Ranch and they seem to be more realistic about what's being said. (While the guide data says 2003 the film is far older. A quick look up of some of the music they were playing put it at 81 or 82) The one girl was trying to get a truck driver to get a $1000 deluxe treatment but then started negotiating with a truck driver when he said it was way too much. She started at $400. He started at $30. they met at $60.

Great negotiating skills. He's wasted as a truck driver.

These girls are definitely not very much in favor of the owner. They're very honest about how he tries to take advantage of all of them. They were also showing the girls smoking pot.

This line just came up from the Madame, "You mean I have to walk all the way back there to tell that freak he ain't getting nothin' for $20." His name was Buck. She told the guy it's $50 minimum for 20 minutes. That's a far cry from the girls saying $1000 or $1500 on the Cathouse documentary.


Well that's a relief. Having only seen the "Cathouse" documentary, I was thinking I'd have to use up my 401K when I got to the stage in my life where I'd be willing to pay for it.
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:45 PM   #43 (Print)
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I think many of the women in the Cathouse documentary are also professional porn stars. That probably increases their desirability to the point where they can charge those seemily outrageous rates and enough men will pay.
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:54 PM   #44 (Print)
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What was the show on Trio called?
I would like to tivo it..

Does DirectV have trio? IT DOES!

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Old 12-15-2004, 03:58 PM   #45 (Print)
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What was the show on Trio called?
I would like to tivo it..

Does DirectV have trio? IT DOES!


I think Trio is being removed from DirecTV VERY soon. I thought it was Thursday or Friday of this week.
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Old 12-15-2004, 04:00 PM   #46 (Print)
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What was the show on Trio called?
I would like to tivo it..

Does DirectV have trio? IT DOES!


It was called Chicken Ranch.

As for DirecTV, wasn't there a thread here that DTV was going to drop Trio at the end of the year? Yep, just did a quick search and here it is: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...&postid=2397081 So, I guess we can kiss this kind of 'educational' programming good bye.
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:49 AM   #47 (Print)
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:19 PM   #48 (Print)
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Cool A mother's thoughts

Just thought I'd weigh in on this topic. I ran across this thread when trying to find a post on how to get Tivo to enter the passcode I have set up for adult-oriented shows on my cablebox...as a mother of 3 puberty-riddled sons...this feature is very handy and I certainly make us of it.

I have seen the Cathouse series, in fact, I watch it regularly and find it fascinating. It wouldn't bother me, though, if it came on at 3 o'clock in the afternoon or 3 o'clock in the morning, because my children can't access it. If there was no way to block this kind of programming, I wouldn't have cable TV.

Personally I think there is too much regulation from the FCC and find it incredible that they're considering putting restrictions on cable channels similar to broadcast stations. I don't want HBO or the government telling me what's appropriate for my household.

Finally, I agree with the comment that about people getting all bent out of shape about sex on TV, but letting their children watch just about any violent movie and not blinking an eye.

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Old 12-24-2005, 08:35 PM   #49 (Print)
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If HBO had used an ounce of discretion about what time the program aired there would be no discussion.


HBO doesn't need an ounce of discretion. They are a pay channel, paid for by customers that should have brains enough to know what is on and when, and should be smart enough to operate parental controls.

Sorry, but I agree 100% (more if I could, but 100% is the max) with the others, including Fleegle, that have smacked down the arrogance of your statements faulting HBO for when they aired the program.

HBO isn't a channel that is broadcast over the public airwaves. They don't have to "watch when they air programs," their customers need to watch what will be coming on and if necessary take proper steps to keep offensive programming unavailable for access by minors.

If you aren't happy about their scheduling, feel free to e-mail or write them an old fashioned letter of complaint, but expecting others that pay good money to HBO for their programming to have to bend their schedules around yours isn't going to get you very far.

HBO shows whatever will get them the most viewers in a time slot, and it is entirely possible that a program they air may be seen as offensive by some viewers. That is why they give ratings for their programs, and why subscribers are encouraged to take proper precautions before viewing those programs.


For that matter, as others have suggested, there is more than enough violence, s-e-x and other potentially offensive materials aired on a single nite of the local and network news to give HBO a run for the money. Do you filter that content for your minors also? Would you want it all moved to 1 a.m. nitely just so it can miss every single possible age-of-minority viewer in the country?!?!

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Old 12-24-2005, 08:37 PM   #50 (Print)
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This reminds me while stationed in the Navy at Norfolk when the Life of Brian came out. The Bible thumpers were out picketing the show. I made it a point to see the movie. No one is going to tell me what I can read or watch.
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Old 12-24-2005, 09:36 PM   #51 (Print)
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Hell I wish they would paly more of this stuff around 7 or 8 pm so I would not have to stay up late to see it . If you have kids like I do its up to me to make sure they do not watch stuff I do not want them to see.

I get so tried of folks saying its for the kids .. Take care of your own damm kids and I will take care of mine

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Hell I wish they would paly more of this stuff around 7 or 8 pm so I would not have to stay up late to see it.
You should get a TiVo...
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Seriously, dont we all have TiVos so we can watch the juicy stuff, rewind it, then watch it again in slo-mo? I smell a poll...

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Old 12-25-2005, 01:12 AM   #54 (Print)
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The irresponsibility in your reply is flabbergasting to me and really not worthy of a reply.
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The only thing irresponsible would be a parent who allows their children unattended access to HBO...parents seem to forget that they are in control, not HBO or any other PAID service they actively invite and financially support coming into their homes.

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The really irresponsible thing is responding to something the OP said 2 and a half years ago.

Who knows? Maybe he's matured since then.

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Old 12-25-2005, 07:11 AM   #56 (Print)
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My husband and I have a child and make ZERO use of such functionality, and would prefer it wasn't there, and I don't feel the least bit irresponsible.

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I realize this is an extremely old thread and may not be responded to but I have to ask. Why do you prefer the V-Chip wasn't there?

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The irresponsibility in your reply is flabbergasting to me and really not worthy of a reply.

Your avatar gives a clue as to where your head is at


Well, this one I am going to have to agree with the other poster...

8pm Mountain on REGULAR HBO is 10 pm Eastern and 9 pm Central.

It IS a pay channel. I have seen the show. I am not TOO much of a pervert...I actually season passed the show on my TiVo. I think you are referring to CatHouse. If you saw it

I agree that kids shouldn't have access to shows like that, BUT if you are saying that ANYONE on the East Coast shouldn't be able to watch an adult show on HBO until midnight, that is a little crazy.

You are kind of dealing with the fact that you live in the Mountain Time Zone.

WOW...just scrolled down to see when this was posted...

Sorry for the burst on such an old topic.

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Old 12-25-2005, 01:26 PM   #58 (Print)
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Great!!!

Now that the major cable cos are offing family tiered programming we are now arguing over premium channles that should do what ever they please- and they offer more than enough warnings. When the right "wins" the battle to censor HBO and others then we all lose.
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I think HBO needs to have more programming showing off naked people and sex. I think they have toned it down overall and is why I cancelled HBO till Sopranos comes back.

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I think HBO needs to have more programming showing off naked people and sex. I think they have toned it down overall and is why I cancelled HBO till Sopranos comes back.



There sister channel - which I do not subscribe to has all the T&A


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