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Old 09-10-2004, 01:20 PM   #151 (Print)
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but can you see the Camcorder recording on the Hard drive, more to the point - play back the camcorder recording from the HARD DRIVE via TiVo interface ?


Yes. It appears just like any other recording. (you give it a name before you start recording)

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Old 09-10-2004, 02:02 PM   #152 (Print)
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Hmm - and can you MRV it (the firewire sourced camcorder recording, or any other analog/component port input recording) around to other TiVos on your network?

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Old 09-10-2004, 02:10 PM   #153 (Print)
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Hmm - and can you MRV it (the firewire sourced camcorder recording, or any other analog/component port input recording) around to other TiVos on your network?


I've never tried that, but I would assume so.

Although once it's been MRVed to another unit you can NOT burn it to a DVD. So if you're thinking about using it for crude editing, it wont work.

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Old 09-10-2004, 04:41 PM   #154 (Print)
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Does the DVR810H-S have a 30-sec. skip hack?


Can someone answer this?

Also, does the DVR810H-S come with basic Tivo?

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Old 09-10-2004, 04:50 PM   #155 (Print)
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Can someone answer this?

Also, does the DVR810H-S come with basic Tivo?
I did answer the question about the 30 second skip feature a few posts back.

Yes, the 30 second skip feature does work on the Pioneer units

Yes, the Pioneer units do come with TiVo Basic

I do not know if the 30 second skip feature works under TiVo Basic though...

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Old 09-10-2004, 05:41 PM   #156 (Print)
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Toshibas from ABT

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They are for sale at ABT!!! Just talked to them, they dont have them yet, but they expect them in about the next week or so! A


So let's say we buy them from ABT now, and we don't receive them, for whatever reason, until after the end of September. Are we still good for the $100 rebate?

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Old 09-10-2004, 05:42 PM   #157 (Print)
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I do not know if the 30 second skip feature works under TiVo Basic though...


It does.
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Old 09-10-2004, 06:12 PM   #158 (Print)
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Re: Toshibas from ABT

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So let's say we buy them from ABT now, and we don't receive them, for whatever reason, until after the end of September. Are we still good for the $100 rebate?


The rebate form says that you need to purchase the unit by September 30th and activate it by October 31st. So provided you have a receipt that says you bought it before 9/30/04 and you actually get the unit by 10/31/04 then you should still get the $100 rebate.

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Old 09-10-2004, 08:49 PM   #159 (Print)
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It's not TiVo, but you gotta admit 709 hours of recording time and a 1 minute burn for a full DVD is worth looking at.

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Old 09-10-2004, 09:05 PM   #160 (Print)
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709 hours in 400Gb = atrocious picture quality

There's nothing special about the new Seagate 400Gb drive. In October, you'll be able to buy one for your Tivo too.
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:07 PM   #161 (Print)
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...and the new Toshibas and Panasonics, at least the Japanese versions, have two tuners!
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:21 PM   #162 (Print)
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Two NTSC tuners with VCR-type recording (timers) doesn't seem very compelling to me.

NTSC tuners don't do anything for digital cable or satellite.
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Old 09-11-2004, 02:48 AM   #163 (Print)
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It would be good to be able to buy a Toshiba RS-TX20 or RS-TX60 soon before the Tivo Rebate Expires at the end of September.

I note that the new Toshiba units play all normal formats, including VCD.

I was thinking about getting a Pioneer DVR-810H or DVR-810H-S, but these units do not play VCD formats. Do any of you have comments on the Pioneer units?

If the new Toshiba units are not available soon, I may need to buy a Pioneer unit. Any suggestions are appreciated!

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Old 09-11-2004, 05:57 AM   #164 (Print)
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At this point, I would not buy the Pioneer units unless you can get a really, really good price (ex: $300). This is an earlier generation design.
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Old 09-11-2004, 07:03 AM   #165 (Print)
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At this point, I would not buy the Pioneer units unless you can get a really, really good price (ex: $300). This is an earlier generation design.


And the differences are?
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Old 09-11-2004, 07:52 AM   #166 (Print)
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The new-generation DVD recorders with Tivo have larger capacity drives (120Gb and 160Gb), 16x dual-layer DVD writers with 4x writing on 2.4x media, and IEEE1394 (Firewire) inputs. They also make use of a new Tivo reference design, although the extent of the differences is unknown.

The current Tivo software doesn't support dual layer DVD writing, but this is a feature that Tivo could (and probably will) support at some point down the road.
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Old 09-11-2004, 11:37 AM   #167 (Print)
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And the differences are?


the firewire alone - for digital camcorders makes it the only one I would want to buy now
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Old 09-11-2004, 12:11 PM   #168 (Print)
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The other possible difference that everyone is hoping for is that the Toshibas won't suffer from the same image quality problems that the Pioneers do. Of course no one has seen one yet so this is an unknown.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:48 PM   #169 (Print)
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Has anyone preordered one yet?? Any ship dates availiable?
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:32 PM   #170 (Print)
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I just pre-ordered a Toshiba RS-TX60 by phone from ABT. They wouldn't give me a ship date, but they said they don't actually charge the credit card until the box ships out.

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Old 09-14-2004, 06:18 PM   #171 (Print)
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Is there any difference other than harddrive size between the 20 and the 60?? (except for the slight differnece in color?) Also, I have not seen anywhere in the specs that it records on DVD RW, is this simply to be assumed or is it possible that the unit does not inlcude this function?

The best guess of ship date by the sales guy at ABT is Sept 30th, but like anywhere else 20 salespeople will have 20 different ship dates.
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:25 PM   #172 (Print)
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They will record DVD-R and DVD-RW. They will not record to DVD+R or DVD+RW.

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Old 09-14-2004, 07:39 PM   #173 (Print)
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They will record DVD-R and DVD-RW. They will not record to DVD+R or DVD+RW.

At least, not with the current software. The newer DVD writers with Tivo will have mechanisms that support DVD+R, DVD+RW, and dual layer should Tivo decide to support them in a software update. At some point, they'll have to support these formats if they want to remain competitive with other DVD writers.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:52 PM   #174 (Print)
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The Pioneer units use A06 drives, so technically they're capable of DVD+R/W as well. However I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for + support on either platform.

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The Pioneer units use A06 drives, so technically they're capable of DVD+R/W as well. However I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for + support on either platform.

Dan


Additionally, there's no point in adding features before the picture quality is fixed.....
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Old 09-15-2004, 06:21 AM   #176 (Print)
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The product pages at Toshiba's website have finally gone up.

RS-TX20

RS-TX60

They list the MSRP at $699 and $799 respectively so hopefully retail is cheaper than that.
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Old 09-15-2004, 07:48 AM   #177 (Print)
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I found this rather odd but Best Buy has a Coming Soon page for the Humax DVD writer but not the Toshibas. The list it as selling for $499 so that is interesting to me.

Humax DRT800 at BestBuy.com
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:14 AM   #178 (Print)
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Eric,

All else being equal, the Humax DVD writer should be cheaper, because it has a smaller hard drive (80Gb) and lacks Tivo Basic.

According to Tivo's last conference call, Humax did not pay the extra fee to license the Tivo Basic software. Unlike the Toshiba, their DVD writer will apparently require the monthly fee to function.
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All else being equal, the Humax DVD writer should be cheaper, because it has a smaller hard drive (80Gb) and lacks Tivo Basic.

According to Tivo's last conference call, Humax did not pay the extra fee to license the Tivo Basic software. Unlike the Toshiba, their DVD writer will apparently require the monthly fee to function.


Very good points. Given the fact that have absolutly no intention of using TiVo Basic and the fact that I don't have any problems with upgrading a TiVo myself, the Humax is looking very attractive. Assuming the Humax is upgradable, you could buy the Humax and put a 250GB HD in it for ~$550 (after the rebate). That seems like a very good deal to me. Of course if it doesn't come out before the end of the rebate period it might not be a contender anyway.
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Either I have great news or...maybe not. I just got off the phone with American Sattelite and after it took her a little while to figure out what I was asking for, the sales person told me that the Humax DRT800 has been released. They put in a call (I assume to Humax) to ask when they will be getting them in and she is going to call me back. Hopefully it will be before the end of the month.
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