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Old 11-16-2004, 12:29 PM   #1 (Print)
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Battlestar Galactica

Has anyone been watching the new series of Battlestar Galactica on Sky One, and if so what do you think of it?

Personally I think it's superb. It's gritty, dark and has an edge to it that I haven't seen in a sci-fi series since Firefly or Babylon 5.

Some people have said that they dislike the camera-work (they've thrown all notion of using tripods and steadycams out of the window, with all. the scenes being filmed with shoulder mounted cameras - INCLUDING the special effects!) but I think this adds to the gutsy realism they're trying to convey.

And for me, the plots are just getting better and better.

What's more - we're the first to see it as Sky ploughed quite a bit of money into its production. In fact, we're probably going to see the entire 13 episode series run before it starts in America in January.

I just hope it doesn't get dropped when shown in America, like so many other interesting and good sci-fi series (e.g. Firefly - what on EARTH possessed the TV company to drop that gem. At least there's hope, with the feature length film coming out next year).

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Old 11-16-2004, 12:31 PM   #2 (Print)
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Yep. I'm enjoying it, too

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Old 11-16-2004, 12:36 PM   #3 (Print)
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I concur, have been enjoying it so far. I like the lack of steadicams!

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Old 11-16-2004, 12:52 PM   #4 (Print)
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I concur, have been enjoying it so far. I like the lack of steadicams!


Apparently, according to the "making of" programme made to accompany the miniseries (which went out in America at the end of 2003). they're trying to give it a documentary feel.

One of the things I love about it is that it doesn't suffer from explainitis that many sci-fi shows seem to suffer from. Take for example that gizmo that Starbuck used to test the atmosphere. We all knew it was an O2 detector - there simply wasn't a need to explain that's what it was - so they didn't.

I also like the unkowns. Why do the Cylons attack in 33 minute intervals in the first episode? They didn't tell us. The characters didn't know - so we didn't get to know! I'm sure it'll get explained in a future episode.

There are also the in-jokes and references. Several nods to the original series already. Also there was the chrome toaster in this week's episode, sporting a solitary red light, which was definately on the Cylon's side in the story line ...

Most importantly, the programme is about the characters and is heavily character based. It doesn't get lost in the special effects.

Oh well - I'd better join the back of the queue, otherwise known as the M25...

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:03 PM   #5 (Print)
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Are you talking about the Movies or the BSG series? Don't tell me I missed the start of that!

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:15 PM   #6 (Print)
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it's an hour a week series following on from the movie length 2 parter of recent.

tvtome has it that you transatlanticans will be getting it in January.

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:24 PM   #7 (Print)
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Ok ok....As long as I didn't miss the series. I saw the movies last year and was really looking forward to seeing the series. That Starbuck is something else!

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:30 PM   #8 (Print)
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FYI, some other discussions that've gone on (from http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...threadid=199516):

Battlestar Galactica  imdb

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    Battlestar Galactica is on the second episode in the U.K. and won't be here until '05   started 10/27/2004 6:41:00 AM, 8 posts, 419 views, last post on 10/28/2004 11:38:00 AM
    Battle Star Galactica   started 10/18/2004 2:50:00 AM, 29 posts, 1105 views, last post on 10/21/2004 2:00:00 PM

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    S01E02: Battlestar Galactica 10/25/2004 (S01E02) "Water"   started 10/29/2004 1:21:00 AM, 10 posts, 335 views, last post on 10/30/2004 6:07:00 PM
    S01E01: Battlestar Galactica 10/18/2004 (S01E01) "33"   started 10/18/2004 8:06:00 PM, 45 posts, 1291 views, last post on 11/1/2004 3:09:00 PM
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:34 PM   #9 (Print)
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I think it's been great and am really enjoying it. Must admit though that I hadn't noticed anything with the cameras.

The way that everything is not explained definately adds to the show, and should keep people watching hopefully.

I think it's an improvement over the original series too...from what I can remember anyway!!
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That Starbuck is something else!

Isn't she just

Her name is KATEE SACKHOFF bit I can't find any decent piccys of her

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Old 11-18-2004, 07:41 AM   #11 (Print)
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What exactly does "Country of first publication" in the credits actually mean? For Battlestar Galactica it reads "United States of America", which we know is incorrect.

The same happened for episodes of Babylon 5 we got before the States and I'm told it happens when we see episodes of Stargate before them.

So, is there a legal reason for saying this in the credits - or are the programme makers assuming the show will air in the States first?

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Old 11-18-2004, 08:51 AM   #12 (Print)
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That's probably referring to where it was filmed as opposed to shown first.

Great series BTW. Shame Tivo opts for the Thursday MIX edition, I have to avoid 3 days of spoilers before I get a chance to watch it

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Old 11-18-2004, 09:29 AM   #13 (Print)
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I assume your first episode clashes with Stargate: Atlantis. I've opted to go the other way round as BG is discussed at length by friends and colleagues the following day.

This is the first time I've come across a series that can be picked apart and analyzed as deeply as this since we had Babylon 5, where we knew there was an overall story ark being told that had been planned out from the beginning. Firefly could have had as much of my attention, but I knew it had already been can-celled before I even started watching it.

For anyone who is interested in an incredibly in-depth synopsis and analysis of each episode, have a look here . This reviewer must spend HOURS after each episode to come up with such a detailed analysis. Note - the in-depth reviews starts with Episode 2: Water.

Also, photo sets (between 10 - 16 per episode) have been put on this web site for all 13 episodes, but be warned, just by looking at these pictures and the one line synopses, certain elements of plot direction can be guessed.

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Old 11-18-2004, 10:34 AM   #14 (Print)
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B5 is certainly the point of reference - even the CGI looks similar IMO.

I like the darkness of it (many other shows would have made the cute kid in the garden into an annoying regular instead of nuking her!) and the way big chunks don't make sense (what are they playing at back on the occupied planet?)

Carl - personally I think Number Six has the edge over Starbuck!

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Old 11-18-2004, 12:16 PM   #15 (Print)
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B5 is certainly the point of reference - even the CGI looks similar IMO.


Yes, but the SFX in this series have the edge of 10 years of extra development and no doubt far more powerful rendering engines.

The big difference to me are the snap-zooms, focus pulling and occasionally the "camera man" even panning too far past the action in the haste of getting the good shot. I like this a lot, but it does mean that you get far fewer establishing shots.

In B5 I just loved the battle scenes where the camera would follow a starfury along the entire length of the station, or where the point of view follows a space ship into the dock.

I'm wondering ... it's early days yet, but I hope a web site is created that focuses discussion and speculation on the series, much like The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5. From what I've seen, I sense a rich planned out story in the making with deep back-story that's going to be slowly revealed over time.

Joss Weadon has admitted that he had a similar plan with Firefly, but realised too late that he needed to plough straight into the story ark rather than start gently with relatively . Battlestar Galactica I suspect hasn't made this mistake.

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Well, their search for the fictitious "Earth" looks like it's going to be one plot line; and discovering how the Cylons intend to wipe out every last human is another. Odds on Number Six doing the Spock/Data "discovering what it is to be human" thing?

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Old 12-09-2004, 03:55 PM   #17 (Print)
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I'm still enjoying this series, although it appears that a second series has yet to be decided.

Looks like it depends on how well it does in the US. Although a lot of people over there are downloading the episodes.

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I'm still enjoying this series, although it appears that a second series has yet to be decided.

Looks like it depends on how well it does in the US. Although a lot of people over there are downloading the episodes.


[unstated ending of sentence]if you're a Nielsen household[/unstated ending of sentence]
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Wasn't sure what a Nielson household was....until I googled!
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Carl - personally I think Number Six has the edge over Starbuck!


Yeah, but she's a bad girl

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I assume your first episode clashes with Stargate: Atlantis.

I assume you're specifically talking about Mix, 'cos they're on different days and times on Sky One.

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Old 12-10-2004, 04:52 AM   #21 (Print)
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http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/3/1/40-33626-sm.jpg

http://www.zothike.com/tharsus/tricia17.jpg

Bad girl or not, I concur, though one picture is slightly more 'provocative' than the other, so perhaps not a fair comparison

Edited to add - though both are 'work safe', don't worry!

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Old 12-30-2004, 01:27 PM   #22 (Print)
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i love this show, god please let there be a second season and beyond.

if for nothing else then to see more of six, man she is just awesome.

i have some NSFW pictures of her, so i enjoy watching her even more now.
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i have some NSFW pictures of her, so i enjoy watching her even more now.


1. NSFW?
2. Any chance of you sharing? (I'll swap you for some Amanda Tapping!)

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1. NSFW?

Not Safe For Work.

Some people work in oppressive environments and have to be careful of the sorts of things they view.
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Surely as moderator I should check that the pictures are suitable for distribution?!

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Not Safe For Work.

I should have guessed I did, in fact, Google it but failed to notice the first link
BTW, I don't work, so what do I care?!

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Surely as moderator I should check that the pictures are suitable for distribution?!


Hehe! Yeah. I always wanted to work at the BBFC or Vice Squad myself

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i have some pictures of her...

Come on, man! Share

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Richard Hatch

After watching tonights epsisode it became clear to me that Tom Zarrak is of course played by Richard Hatch. The real Apollo.

Now all we need is the real Starbuck

I, BTW would prefer more normal rather than documentary style camera work.

It is a Sci-Fi series, not a documentary.

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I rather like the style. It's one of the things that's kept me watching.

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