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Old 10-11-2005, 06:46 PM   #1 (Print)
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Quiet drive recommendations

The drive in my Series 1 Sony died and I've decided to get a bare drive and install the OS myself. This unit is in the bedroom, so I want a particularly quiet drive.

I see the DiamondMax name thrown around a lot. Is that the drive to have right now? I see them on Newegg for about $56. What other drive should I be considering?

I was satisfied with the 30 hours I used to have so I'm probably going to go ahead and get the teeny (ironic grin) 80 gig. From what I've heard, the smaller drives tend to run noticably quieter than the larger drives? Or is the 200 gig about the same decibel level (only $30 difference?)

In reading the sticky post it appears that if I go with the large drive that the 137 GB issue is pretty much solved, and I don't really have to do anything special anymore to use the extra space? The current OS image already incorporates LBA48?
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:55 AM   #2 (Print)
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I would never put a Maxtor drive in a TiVo

They're cheap and fine for desktop usage but simply not engineered to stand up to the 24x7 thrashing they will get in a TiVo, IMHO. Spend a few extra $$ and save yourself the hassle of a broken TiVo and repeated RMA cycles.

The quietest drives around are Sumsung, and they are also pretty reliable and have a 3 year warranty. If you want a longer warranty, then Seagate are excellent, reliable drives, but not as quiet as Samsung.

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Old 10-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #3 (Print)
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Hitachi's new, large Deskstar's are quite quieta s well. My 250 runs warm, but no warmer than my Maxtor DiamondMax 9, and is infinitely quieter! 3 year warranty.

My Seagate 300GB is less quiet, but runs cool and has a 5-year warranty.

No more Maxtor's for me, BTW - their DiamondMax 10 draws TOO much power for the TiVo to comfortably handle it!

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Old 10-14-2005, 01:17 AM   #4 (Print)
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Thanks for the advice. I'm glad I asked. It looks like you saved me from a mistake.
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:41 AM   #5 (Print)
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I'll chime in here just to say that I have 2 120gb DiamondMax 9 drives that have been running for 2 1/2 years in a Series 1 tivo without issue. When I bought the drives, they had a 3 year warranty and it looks like they are going to make it.

That being said, I don't want to use Maxtor drives in Tivo's anymore just because of the locking mechanism that is used for Quantum/Maxtor drives. Its an extra hassle that just isn't necessary to deal with. I have switched to Seagate drives because of price/warranty/availability, but I hear great things about the Samsungs.

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:21 AM   #6 (Print)
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I use a Samsung, and I can't hear it at all. It's been almost a year now.

Some Samsung drives have a high-pitched whine that some people find annoying, so make sure you buy it from a place where you can easily take it back. Mine does not have this whine.
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:30 AM   #7 (Print)
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The Hitachi 250GB is officially the quietest drive I've ever owned! The system (Series 2 240...) is running ni the low 40s, too - while the Humax DRT800 witht he 300GB Seagate in it is running at 48ish Centigrade. Impressive! Of course, the latter has less air space and a second drive - the DCD burner ... but still!

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Old 10-14-2005, 04:49 PM   #8 (Print)
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I placed an order for a Samsung last night. Day before yesterday there was an 80 gig Hitachi that I was gonna get, but it was out of stock by the time I ordered. That left my choices to 40 gig for $48, 120 gig for $70, or 160 gig for $75. 40 gig would have been large enough, but I decided to splurge and get the 160. Since I used to have a 30 gig this should feel plenty roomy
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:56 PM   #9 (Print)
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Nice Although why not a larger drive for that much? fatwallet links to numerous cheaper deals (although, not by enough less to make you cancel this order)

My Hitachi 250 cost m 90 shipped, discounted, no rebates. Highish IMO, but acceptable in a crunch (desperate to rescue dying 80GB etc etc)

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:20 PM   #10 (Print)
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Anything wrong with Western Digital?
I bought 2x120GB 7200RPM at BestBuy for $35 each after two $30 mail in rebates, but the rebates expire 10/15.

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Old 10-14-2005, 10:29 PM   #11 (Print)
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Only one rebate may be valid per household - read the fine print.

Mail pretending to be different households
While that sounds like rebate fraud, it really isn't - IMnsHO they're (manufactures and stores are) the ones committing fraud by insitituting and pushing rebates down our unwilling gullets.

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Old 10-14-2005, 10:57 PM   #12 (Print)
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Anything wrong with Western Digital?
I bought 2x120GB 7200RPM at BestBuy for $35 each after two $30 mail in rebates, but the rebates expire 10/15.

The newer WD's (Built after 01/01/05) are quiet and cool running. I just got a WD 320Gb.

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Old 10-14-2005, 11:46 PM   #13 (Print)
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Check out EndPCNoise - they recommend Samsung as the quietest drives.

Sorry - not allowed to post the url because I don't have 5 posts yet , but I'm sure you can figure it out...
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Old 10-15-2005, 12:53 PM   #14 (Print)
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Check out EndPCNoise - they recommend Samsung as the quietest drives.

Sorry - not allowed to post the url because I don't have 5 posts yet , but I'm sure you can figure it out...
Ok - but you could have posted the URL in a immediate follow up - it is not like you are getting charged per post...
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Old 10-15-2005, 04:59 PM   #15 (Print)
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Ok - but you could have posted the URL in a immediate follow up - it is not like you are getting charged per post...


Yeah - I figured there was probably some rule that if you have less than 5 posts you can't post to the same thread twice, or can't post twice in the same day, or you can only post every other Tuesday...

Actually, I figured that people could get to the site without me spelling it out.
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Old 10-15-2005, 05:03 PM   #16 (Print)
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...but just in case - and now that I am duly authorized to post this - here is the link:

http://www.endpcnoise.com/

Of course I get an error when I click on the Insert Hyperlink button... oh well... maybe I have to have 10 posts to use that button...
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:52 PM   #17 (Print)
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I put in a WD300JB, and it's silent! Barely audibe even. I've been really impressed, so much that when I installed it and turned the Tivo on, I touched the HD enclosure to check for vibrations that it was indeed running.

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Old 10-15-2005, 11:05 PM   #18 (Print)
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I put in a WD300JB, and it's silent! Barely audibe even. I've been really impressed, so much that when I installed it and turned the Tivo on, I touched the HD enclosure to check for vibrations that it was indeed running.


That's ironic --- at this moment I am replacing a WD 100G (Caviar) with a Hitachi 160G because the WD has an annoying high-pitched whine, made much more apparent lately as the TiVo is on a shelf above the TV instead of in a cabinet. I went with a Hitachi as I know that they are robust and silent.

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Old 10-15-2005, 11:14 PM   #19 (Print)
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Old 10-16-2005, 02:47 AM   #20 (Print)
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That's ironic --- at this moment I am replacing a WD 100G (Caviar) with a Hitachi 160G because the WD has an annoying high-pitched whine


That's old WD with ball bearings. The current WD should be quiet, but the seek noise has to be adjusted.

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Old 10-16-2005, 11:25 AM   #21 (Print)
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That's old WD with ball bearings. The current WD should be quiet, but the seek noise has to be adjusted.

Okay, how do you adjust the seek noise?

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Old 10-16-2005, 12:30 PM   #22 (Print)
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Never done it, but generally it's some tool you download from the manufacturer's website.

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Okay, how do you adjust the seek noise?

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hgst.com? Oh, that's Hitachi.

Shouldn't he be getting software for a Western Digital drive?

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hgst.com? Oh, that's Hitachi.

Shouldn't he be getting software for a Western Digital drive?


WD doesn't provide one.

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Old 10-16-2005, 06:25 PM   #26 (Print)
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hgst.com? Oh, that's Hitachi.

Shouldn't he be getting software for a Western Digital drive?

Works on WD & Maxtor, that I had laying around.

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Old 10-17-2005, 03:22 PM   #27 (Print)
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I put in a WD300JB, and it's silent! Barely audibe even. I've been really impressed, so much that when I installed it and turned the Tivo on, I touched the HD enclosure to check for vibrations that it was indeed running.

The term silent is absolute. The drive can't be both silent and "barely audible". That said, I also find the newer WDs to be pretty quiet with AAM activated.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:53 PM   #28 (Print)
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Took a few tries, but I finally got the Samsung in and working.

I just wanted to post back and thank you guys for pointing that drive out to me. Even before I closed up the case that thing was silent from farther than about three feet.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:26 PM   #29 (Print)
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I just put a 300G seagate in the DTivo and it is very loud. Seek noise is so noticeable, I have to turn the TV volume up. I have read that this is a common complaint with Seagate drives. Can someone give me some advice on what to do...Should I just return the Seagate and order another drive online? What is the best drive going for TIVOs (am interested in using acoustic management software to make it super quiet)? I just got an R10 for my bedroom and it is completley silent. The whole reason I replaced the original drive was it had progressively gotten loud as well...
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:40 PM   #30 (Print)
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I read somewhere that Seagate uses different technology in their various drives and that their 160GB is the quiet version of all the large drives. I've used these in numerous Tivo's and can concurr. I like the 5 year warranty since most drives in a Tivo are trashed after 2-3 years of continuous use.

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