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Old 11-14-2005, 01:03 PM   #91 (Print)
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They have been updating their restauarants.. .but I think its more of their high-end ones.

I've liked their buffet in that, while it is not a large quantity of food, the quality was good. There is also the 24-hour cafe which has decent food.

I do have an email into the Hilton folks to see what they can/won't do. I'll pass that info along once I find out.

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Old 11-14-2005, 01:43 PM   #92 (Print)
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Unless the price is amazing i'd prefer on strip

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Old 11-14-2005, 06:40 PM   #93 (Print)
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Heck Circus Circus is showing a $45 rate that week.

How big a dump is Circus Circus?

Imperial Palace shows an $85 rate. Any good?
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:42 PM   #94 (Print)
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location, location, location.





Ditto!

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Old 11-14-2005, 06:44 PM   #95 (Print)
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Heck Circus Circus is showing a $45 rate that week.

How big a dump is Circus Circus?

Imperial Palace shows an $85 rate. Any good?


Dump and dump.

No reason to stay at places like that when several decent places on the strip show rates that are pretty much exactly what we paid the last two years at NYNY.

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Old 11-14-2005, 07:22 PM   #96 (Print)
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Heck Circus Circus is showing a $45 rate that week.

How big a dump is Circus Circus?

Imperial Palace shows an $85 rate. Any good?



for an extra $5 I'd rather stay at TI

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Old 11-14-2005, 07:25 PM   #97 (Print)
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My thought as well. I'd like a hotel that has a decent breakfast, I had a great time eating with the peeps last year, and I'm afraid if we stay in a place that doesn't have a decent breakfast, folks will scatter to the winds once they leave the hotel.

At least if we're mid-strip we might run into each other
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:20 PM   #98 (Print)
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If the Hilton can offer us a $50-$60 group rate, it's something I'd seriously ask everyone to consider when voting. It's hard to turn down a rate in that range, even if it's a crappy location.

But if the Hilton can't give us a phenomenal deal like that, I don't see the point in staying there. The main selling points of the Hilton *have* to be the room rate and a really good ballroom/catering price point. Otherwise, they're just another off-strip hotel that happens to have a really amazing Star Trek bar in it. Not to mention that, since the hotel is so far off the beaten path, you'd HAVE to have a good rate to make up for the monorail and taxi costs that you'll end up with as a result of staying out there.

So... if room rate's good, I can put it on the table. And if it's not, I'll make sure folks know what's going on.

I hope I'm not being seen as trying to necessarily push the Hilton, by the way. It was simply my preference at the time because the rooms were decent, the rates were cheap, and I had a car. Because I had the car, there was no way for me to justify the $30-40 difference in cost per night in Vegas.

I drove last year, I'll drive this year. I know the mobility has to be an issue with some folks.

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:27 PM   #99 (Print)
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While $50-60/night sounds good, the majority won't have a car. I also think the majority of the attractions we'll all want to see are on the strip away from the Hilton.

I'm not ruling out the Hilton, let's just persue all options.

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:36 PM   #100 (Print)
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I hope I'm not being seen as trying to necessarily push the Hilton, by the way. It was simply my preference at the time because the rooms were decent, the rates were cheap, and I had a car. Because I had the car, there was no way for me to justify the $30-40 difference in cost per night in Vegas.

I drove last year, I'll drive this year. I know the mobility has to be an issue with some folks.
I didn't see it as pushing. It's merely one more option we should explore. I'm not partial to any hotel at this point... it's really the one that's going to be the best all-around deal for us, and the one that will bring the most folks.

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:39 PM   #101 (Print)
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as far as off strip locations go, the only thing going for the hilton is the monorail location. But what is that $10 for a day pass?

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:42 PM   #102 (Print)
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:43 PM   #103 (Print)
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can't recall. But even with that, it's way more convenient to be able to quickly walk to several different properties. And if you plan a long walking tour of the strip and you stay at the Hilton, you have to pay on top of that.

The Hilton is fine for a big convention where you have lots of activities in the convention center next door, but if you want to go all over the strip, it's just better to be there.

Was the price of NYNY really keeping people away? It really wasn't pricey to start with. Personally, I'm a bit surprised the Hilton is so much less..

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:46 PM   #104 (Print)
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price wise I thought NYNY was really nice for what I spent, I think it is more to do with wanting to not go to the same place for a third year in a row.

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Old 11-14-2005, 08:53 PM   #105 (Print)
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:02 PM   #106 (Print)
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Was the price of NYNY really keeping people away? It really wasn't pricey to start with. Personally, I'm a bit surprised the Hilton is so much less..


I wouldn't mind spending a few extra bucks to be mid-strip.

It wasn't the price that makes people want to change. It's that the NYNY really isn't that good, and as others said, same ole, same ole.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:08 PM   #107 (Print)
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My thought as well. I'd like a hotel that has a decent breakfast,


Breakfast? You guys get up in time for breakfast?

And it is all about the peEps! However, there has to be a balance between room price and convenience. If we save a lot of money on the room, but spend it on transportation (monorail/cabs) then it's a wash.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:16 PM   #108 (Print)
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I wouldn't mind spending a few extra bucks to be mid-strip.

It wasn't the price that makes people want to change. It's that the NYNY really isn't that good, and as others said, same ole, same ole.



I don't know what everybody is complaining about, other then the crowded pool, I thought NYNY was a pretty nice hotel for $90 a night.

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Old 11-14-2005, 09:16 PM   #109 (Print)
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Dammit, if we only had someone on the forum who owned a 75-room mansion just off the Strip...
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:18 PM   #110 (Print)
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Breakfast? You guys get up in time for breakfast?

And it is all about the peEps! However, there has to be a balance between room price and convenience. If we save a lot of money on the room, but spend it on transportation (monorail/cabs) then it's a wash.


Well yeah. When you get up at 10 am, that's 1 pm body time for us east coasters. Perfect for a couple thousand calories of breakfast

Edit; I totally agree about the balance of room price and convenience.

NYNY wasn't bad, just would like a change of scenery this year.
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Well yeah. When you get up at 10 am, that's 1 pm body time for us east coasters. Perfect for a couple thousand calories of breakfast



America had some really good pancakes Even if we don't stay there I might need to head down and get some.

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Old 11-14-2005, 09:22 PM   #112 (Print)
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America had some really good pancakes Even if we don't stay there I might need to head down and get some.


The chicken fried steak was pretty good too.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:25 PM   #113 (Print)
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Like Ed - I'm not trying to steer people towards LVH. It is just the hotel that I am more familar with (and can get great personal rates).

As the Monorail - Multi-single ride prices are
10-ride (sharable): $20
24-hour: $10
72-hour: $25

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Old 11-14-2005, 09:28 PM   #114 (Print)
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The main selling points of the Hilton *have* to be the room rate and a really good ballroom/catering price point. Otherwise, they're just another off-strip hotel that happens to have a really amazing Star Trek bar in it.
My god man, isn't that ENOUGH??? Are we not going to spend an afternoon/evening of fun and frolic there at some point? I want to do the experience for sure. But I can see inconvenience of staying there.

My vote is still the Luxor. It's not mid-strip, but if you seriously want to go anywhere, it's not far. At least by my standards . If you want to take a walking tour of the whole strip, it's just as far mid strip as it is north or south strip. Up one side and down the other. The rates that I've seen are the same as TI.

But TI seems so far to be the only choice people are considering. Everything else is either too junky or too off strip.

I don't think I've seen this figure, but about how many people are we expecting to attend? Around 100? Ya think? I have no idea... this will be the first TiVoCon I've been to.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:32 PM   #115 (Print)
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I think we've had around 65-70? last couple of years. Tiny on Vegas standards.

100 would be great!
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:08 PM   #116 (Print)
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Yes Ma'am ! Breakfast before booze ... best before noon !

Actually.... IICR, we did 8 am breakfast and had a group of 25 !

and ... oh yeah .... I don't care what hotel you decide on.

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:15 PM   #117 (Print)
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Was the price of NYNY really keeping people away? It really wasn't pricey to start with. Personally, I'm a bit surprised the Hilton is so much less..

It partially kept Ms.Phitt away (the other part was work committments). If she wasn't able to share a room with someone, she probably wouldn't have gone.

I stayed 5 nights at the Hilton.

5 nights at the Hilton @ $50/night was $250.

5 nights at the NYNY @ $90/night would have cost me $450.

For a single person, this stuff probably is not as big a deal.

As the sole provider of my family, on top of needing to get babysitters, paying $30/person for a single MGM Grand buffet, and all of the other activities (x2 people for me), that stuff starts adding up. Saving a couple of hundred dollars isn't a big deal per se, but it was certainly a large enough chunk of change that it made me reconsider where I was staying. $200 is a two week Costco run for me and the family.

It's not that I don't have money, but I don't see that we have to be poverty striken to want to be cost-conscious.

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:18 PM   #118 (Print)
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Yes Ma'am ! Breakfast before booze ... best before noon !

Actually.... IICR, we did 8 am breakfast and had a group of 25 !

and ... oh yeah .... I don't care what hotel you decide on.


I might be in over my head.

But I'll try to keep up.
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It wasn't the price that makes people want to change. It's that the NYNY really isn't that good, and as others said, same ole, same ole.



I understand that, but why off strip when there are places on the strip that aren't NYNY but are the same price?

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:32 PM   #120 (Print)
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In checking some air/hotel deals from Phila on USAir, I found that staying at TI can be had for around $60/night.

5 nights at TI plus RT coach was $720. Airfare alone is $400. The deals look like they work even if you don't get airfare...$350.
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