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Old 12-27-2005, 11:16 PM   #31 (Print)
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All I care is about you being a decent person.....gay, black, white, yellow, alien...who gives a crap...I just want decent humans to be around me, good friends and reliable people. That's it. Good for you man, if you are happy, we are happy.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:17 PM   #32 (Print)
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Way to go, Zog. I'm really happy, glad, and excited for you. I can only imagine how you feel. Being gay myself, I've always wanted to let my parents know about me. At 23, I'm still waiting for the right opportunity. I've known that I'm gay for a very, very, very long time but I'm still waiting for the right opportunity.

I have so much respect for people who have had the courage to tell their family about themselves. I can only hope to garner enough courage in the future. Once again, congratulations, Zog, and I'm elated for you.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:21 PM   #33 (Print)
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Way to go Zog and good for your mother being so accepting. My mom was one of those "I think I always knew you were gay" types and was somewhat relieved to get it out in the open.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:22 PM   #34 (Print)
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Way to go, Zog. I hope your mom settles into being comfortable with the news.

Congrats on being yourself. That is awesome.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:27 PM   #35 (Print)
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Zog, you seem like a super cool guy to me.
Seems to me the only problem we have here is that you don't post enough
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:42 PM   #36 (Print)
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I can see how you may think that this is Richter scale material, but to your true friends and those who love you dearest, it's a non-event. Kinda like "umm, I like blue, not red." Okay, I'll buy you a blue shirt next time. Hopefully everyone close to you embraces who you are and not what you are.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:52 PM   #37 (Print)
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What's the diff, Indy?

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:55 PM   #38 (Print)
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What's the diff, Indy?

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Huh?

That's kinda my point. To his true friends and loved ones, it won't make a difference.

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:59 PM   #39 (Print)
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Hopefully everyone close to you embraces who you are and not what you are.

So, you're just bashing people that may hate him for who he is, and what he is?

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:03 AM   #40 (Print)
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I'm not bashing anyone. I'm saying anyone who shuns him based on new knowledge is not as true a friend as he thought.

Have you been drinking too much or have I?

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:03 AM   #41 (Print)
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Good to know it worked out okay for you, Zog.

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:09 AM   #42 (Print)
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So at what point did TCF ask? *shrug*

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:15 AM   #43 (Print)
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Zog, I'll add my recommendation of PFLAG to the chorus. The social support is what she really needs -- someone with whom she can get reassurance from. You might consider getting her a subscription for a year to OUT and/or Genre and/or The Advocate... or at least a few issues; you might also get some copies of the local weekly/monthly gay publication too. All that will help her see more than just the negative stories that are most often in the mainstream press.

Beyond that, just give her time, be there to talk and answer questions and reinforce that you haven't changed any, she just now knows something about you that she didn't.

When I told my parents (yeah, yeah, back in the dark ages), my mom was most worried for me, but it took some time for her to express that. Unfortunately her best friend also had a gay son, but he hadn't come out to her yet, so I couldn't really suggest that avenue as much as I wanted... though when he finally told his mom, I'm sure my mom provided some support.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:15 AM   #44 (Print)
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Congrats on coming out. I'm really glad things have gone fairly smoothly thus far.

And being worried about deceiving us? Make that the last thing on your mind because as far as I'm concerned, that's not the case. We'll take ya for whoever you are, we like you for being you. =)
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:16 AM   #45 (Print)
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I remember when my best friend told me she was a lesbian. It kinda came out in a rush in the middle of something that was a joke. It was weird because she was terrified to tell me. I said, "Oh, okay," and we continued our discussion.

I'm very glad that your mom is being great about your life path. It is a very hard one and hate crimes suck. I know the stuff that Choccy and I deal with is mild enough but can be awful sometimes, so I can see where her fear is. We find it easier to avoid some areas and frankly, safer. Some people are such empty headed bigots.

Yet in that fear is great love. Moms can be so amazing. She'll probably do her own research and tentitivly attempt tor each out to you on this new level of your relationship.

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:16 AM   #46 (Print)
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Big hugs to you, Zog. Big, big hugs.

I hope the road ahead for you will be smooth sailing. Happy 2006! You are awesome.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:17 AM   #47 (Print)
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I, for one, welcome our new gay overlo....

Oh, nevermind.

Congrats, Zog. You seem like a nice guy. I hope things go well with your mother.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:22 AM   #48 (Print)
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Anyone have good advice for lee?


I'm thinking he's leaning more one way than the other - Supported by his current sig line

Okay, okay, that may have been insensitive...sorry - I couldn't resist!

The funniest thing I ever saw about coming out was in a movie - Can't remember what movie, I'm sure someone here will know - Where the son rushes into the room, tells his parents he has a brain tumor and only weeks to live. As soon as they break down, he says, "Just kidding, I'm gay."

OH! It was Steel Magnolias - but it was Olivia Dukakis that was relaying the story in the beauty shop.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:25 AM   #49 (Print)
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I'm not bashing anyone. I'm saying anyone who shuns him based on new knowledge is not as true a friend as he thought.

Well, on the male side of the fence, sure.

But on the female side? It's quite possible that she who shuns him based on new knowledge is merely heartbroken.

And while that may be tongue in cheek for the TCF context, it's somewhat serious for the RL context.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:26 AM   #50 (Print)
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Wow, good for you, Zog. Sorry I can't help w/ your mom, but it sounds like you're off to a good start.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:43 AM   #51 (Print)
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Alas, I've never even taken a hit off a joint ...


You're straight as they come!


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Old 12-28-2005, 12:46 AM   #52 (Print)
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Alas, I've never even taken a hit off a joint

But have you ever been in a joint during a hit?
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:47 AM   #53 (Print)
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But have you ever been in a joint during a hit?

I'm sure he's been hit in a joint.

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Old 12-28-2005, 12:48 AM   #54 (Print)
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And I'm sure he's been joint in a hit!

Wait. Huh?

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Old 12-28-2005, 01:56 AM   #55 (Print)
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When my daughter's boyfriend moved out of their apartment, a friend from school moved in. She happened to be a lesbian. I tried to be friendly with her mom but all she could talk about was when her daughter would get married (to a man) so she could have grandkids. When I tried to broach the subject of adopting, she would not even entertain the idea. I feel such sorrow for my daughter's friend because it appears her mother may not ever accept her as she is.
I'm with Ann when she says a mother will usually know. I'm glad things went smoothly for you with your mom & hope it goes as well or even better with every one else that matters in your life.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:02 AM   #56 (Print)
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But have you ever been in a joint during a hit?

My (do I even need to say "Italian"?) uncle had just stepped outside of a joint when he was hit. Does that count?
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:37 AM   #57 (Print)
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Tell her that fewer and fewer people have problems with gaiety, day by day.

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What John said.

Beyond that, mothers almost never forsake their babies. Not if they can help it. Mostly. Certainly not over gaiety.

Zog, your mother wants you to be happy. And if happy is gay... Be happy. Talk to your Mom often in the near future. She'll likely have questions that she may need you to approach first. Gently.

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Old 12-28-2005, 03:24 AM   #58 (Print)
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"This above all: to thine own self be true"

Takes a lot of moxy to come to terms with who you are and what that means, good luck and I hope things work out well for you as you move along in this thing we call life
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:46 AM   #59 (Print)
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It sounds like things are going well.

And I hope Zog's mother's worries about local repercussions are unfounded. But as far as TCF is concerned...don't worry about us. We accept everyone here...and don't ask for the "sexual orientation card" on the way in.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:47 AM   #60 (Print)
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Oh, Zog?

If you have a female friend that your best (straight) male friend is worried about "stealing" from you as a girlfriend...please let him know. It'll make things easier.

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